Posts by Lady Liberty

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Hello..this is my story..

by Lozhasleft in

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i'm pleased to have found this site...i've browsed a little ...read quite a lot and gasped at some stories, giggled at the one liners and nodded in recognition of others' strong opinions and can relate to a great deal.. i'll try and keep my intro as brief as possible for anyone kind enough to listen.. i got involved with the witnesses in the late 70's in the uk.

i was in my early 20s and had had a love and fascination for the bible since my difficult childhood.

i soon brought my life into 'line' although it took a long time for me to pack up the smoking which didnt go down well in those days when 6 months of study should have been enough and if you hadnt cracked it then it was suggested that you were some kind of loser.... i reared my 4 children in the 'truth' as well as i could but i cant claim that we were a 'strong' family in their terms...just muddled along really..my husband at the time was a very difficult and abusive man and home life wasnt easy for any of us with his anger, jealousy and violence.

Lady Liberty

Dear Loz,

Wow...I wish I could give you a big HUG!!! My heart feels so saddened at all the suffering, loss and pain you have experienced at the hand of the evil Watchtower!! Thank goodness you are on your road to recovery with a wonderful new husband to support you. I hope you stick around, as you will find MANY MANY friends here. Some here no longer believe in God at all, but many more still do. We are all on our own journey, and are encouraged by others strength and love. Hang in there, things will get better I promise!! Above all else keep your relationship with your creator close, and he will continue to carry you through!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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Losing the war on Facebook

by Brocephus in

ok this is weird i am noticing more and more jw's on facebook.

even an elder i know has started an account.

at first it seemed like it was just the "spiritually weak" who really don't care or do much field service.

Lady Liberty

I was contacted to be a Facebook friend by a inactive JW. I was surprised, because I was sure she had heard of our "story" and the letter we sent out to all JWs we knew..and were disfellowshipped. Before I accepted her friendship I looked at her friends. She has tonsof very active JWs in this area as friends too...people who refuse to acknowledge us...of course we are evil "apostates".

Anyhow...I private messaged her and told her that she was likely to get alot of crap or even in trouble with the elders if she had me as a friend. She said she did not care! Her dad is even an elder, and she has him on there as a friend. So I accepted her. She was contacted by several JWs and she was told we were "dangerous"...yea...that we might tell her the truth about the truth..LOL!! However, she told them that that was between me and Jehovah and was none of her business. She used to openly comment on my remarks, now she doesn't, probably because she has recieved alot of crap for having me on there, but she keeps me as a friend anyway. Through her I can see all the ofhter JWs that are her frhends. THere are tons of elders and pioneers etc..from this area on there. It does surprise me! There is even another disfellowshipped person she has as a friend...

I do think that Facebook will become a huge target for the Governing Body, as it gives too many JWs easy acess to disfellowshipped ones or apostates...

I think its funny....

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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What was your initial reaction to finding out the religion is a cult?

by make yourself in

mine was filled with shock and anger but mostly anger.

it made me feel that way because i have never been lied to like that growing up in the religion with it being all you know.

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Lady Liberty

Shock, disbelief, and anger..

L.L.

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Anniversary of our being egged by JWS, decide to show you all the letter we sent to 200 JW families!!! Enjoy!!

by Lady Liberty in

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i hope this letter finds you and your loved ones both happy and well.

one day, before the summer assembly, my parents informed me that they had serious doubts.

i just wanted it to go away, and for things to be the way they used to be.

Lady Liberty

Dear Michelle365,

You asked: Did you get anyone who was upset that you broke their faith?

The answer is not a one!! My reply to your brother, if he would say that to you, would be something along the lines of, "If the truth is really the truth, it should be able to withstand any examination. And if it cannot withstand it, it is NOT truth. DO we not owe it to ourselves, and ESPECIALLY our heavenly Father to make sure we are worshipping him with Spirit and TRUTH? He himself invites and encourages us to make sure of ALL things, for this very reason."

The truth can be VERY painful especially when you are blindsided by it. However, if he is truely a lover of truth, it will eat away at his conscience until he investigates and examines it for himself. I have been very shocked though that people like my Grandmother who told me she believed what I found to be truthful, and if she wasn't a widow and was younger, she would investigate it herself. But she was content in her little routine, and the friends that stop by to visit her and take her out in service (she thouroughly enjoys this time to gossip). I told her that my conscience would no longer allow me to teach things that I knew to be untruthful. And that I still had to answer to Jehovah. She told me that well at least I would be doing what I was told!!!!! I was so blown away..that her loyalty became crystal clear to me! It was definately with the organization and not to Jehovah, like I had always believed it to be. That would prove to be the thoughts of many I had looked up to. It is shocking, disappointing and VERY disturbing...allcompounding to the power of the cult!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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Anniversary of our being egged by JWS, decide to show you all the letter we sent to 200 JW families!!! Enjoy!!

by Lady Liberty in

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friends

i hope this letter finds you and your loved ones both happy and well.

one day, before the summer assembly, my parents informed me that they had serious doubts.

i just wanted it to go away, and for things to be the way they used to be.

Lady Liberty

BTTT for newbies...:)

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Brand New: Currently Totally Devastated

by daringhart13 in

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i'm brand new to the board.

long time, "big shot" elder, ....taught at km school, conventions, etc.

yeah, i know it means nothing....but it gives you an idea of how deep i've been a jw.. i don't even really know what to write at this point.

Lady Liberty

Dear Daringhart13,

First of all....((HUGS))

Second..."WELCOME"!!!

You have definately come to the right place if your looking for others who understand!! Most here have been through the same feelings of hurt, loss and confusion. It does take time, but I PROMISE things will get better. You will no doubt be like most of us who have found out the truth about the "truth", experiencing a full spectrum of emotions. Confusion, denial, devistation, hurt, anger...and finally PEACE!! It took me about 2 years of research every spare minute I had outside of working full time, being a wife and a mom to finally be able to be at peace with what I had discovered and to be able to close that chapter of my life and to be able to move forward.

Once you finally do, you will feel like a bird who has flown for the very first time!!! You will experience life from a totally different prospective! I will never forget the first time it hit me, was when I was sitting in a airplane waiting for the plane to depart, watching all the other people baord the plane. I thought to myself, "All these people, are my brothers and sisters!!" It was such a awesome feeling. I had only viewed JWs as my brothers and sisters. How closed minded I had been my whole life!! I never thought of myself as being very judgemental, but after leaving, I would experiece little revelations such as this, that would make me realize how very wrong I was!

All I can suggest, is the more research you can do, to find out the truth about the organization, the faster you will go through the process of emotions and be emotionally free!! Hang in there!! You will find many friends on this forum. And you will find some have been so hurt, that they no longer believe in God. But you will find that there are many who still have been able to maintain and have a close relationship with him. For my husband and I, we firmly believe that without God's Holy Spirit, comfort and direction, there is no way we would have been able to come out of this whole thing as well as we have. We prayed for direction and strength . And to find out the truth..wether it would be what we had always been taught...or if not to find out what it really is. And we were never more driven to continue on our journey. Our prayers were answered, and we found the comfort and strength we so desperately needed. One thing to keep in mind about this forum is that, we do not all agree with one another..but that is ok. We still love and support each other in that we are all on different stages of our journey, and has been very difficult for most.

Now, after several years, we are completly content, happy, and living a life that we are sure is being blessed by God. If you would like to read our story, I welcome you to do so, as you may find its contents very helpful to you. This forum was VITAL to us, in that we found others, like ourselves, had discovered the same things, and it was a HUGE source of information that would have taken us a lifetime if ever to compile.

So, be strong, hang on, and keep your relationship with your heavely father as close as you can!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

PS. My computer won't let me copy and paste the link...so if you look me up under members, it is the very first post I ever made entitled, "It's high time I introduce myself"....

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Long time lurker, first time poster

by Miss Chievous in

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Lady Liberty

Dear Miss C

WELCOME!!! Thank you for sharing your story. ((HUGS)) You will not be lonely here! You will find much comfort and friendship with these friends. Though you may not always agree on everything, most of us have one thing in common..and that is we have gotten our brains back from a very dangerous cult. This forum will no doubt prove to be a lifeline to you, as it has for most here. I promise things will get better, and easier, as you continue to enjoy your freedom and worship based on your conscience not someone elses. Hang in there....and again...WELCOME!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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Anniversary of our being egged by JWS, decide to show you all the letter we sent to 200 JW families!!! Enjoy!!

by Lady Liberty in

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friends

i hope this letter finds you and your loved ones both happy and well.

one day, before the summer assembly, my parents informed me that they had serious doubts.

i just wanted it to go away, and for things to be the way they used to be.

Lady Liberty

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU!! :)

Thank you again for your kind words and support!!!

How much time elapsed between the mailing of this letter and your Christmas sign sighting?

Did the CO or elders present any arguments supporting 607 after this?

I wrote the letter and sent it around the begining of February, 07. And we were visited by the Elders on December 15, 07. So about 11 1/2 months was the time that lapsed between the letter and the Elders visit to ask if we were celebrating Christmas.

Neither the CO or the Elder wanted to discuss 607. They just wanted to know if we would meet for a judicial comitee regarding celebrating Christmas. Here is a copy and paste from my post right after it happened regarding that subject, I brought up to them;

I said.."You know there was a time 3 years ago we were willing to meet to have our questions (re: 607) answered. But we waited and waited and waited for the elders to reply and they NEVER came!" Then real cocky & with a smirk on his face the CO said," Sometimes we just have to wait..don't we!?" I said, "Yeah, well you waited a little too long!" (Oh he was a JERK! Fairly young and a smart ASS!) (Excuse my french.)

He then said.."Well, its clear you are going back to the pagan ways of the world." ( My husband and I have NEVER been in the world! We were both raised very strong JWS!)

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Anniversary of our being egged by JWS, decide to show you all the letter we sent to 200 JW families!!! Enjoy!!

by Lady Liberty in

jw
friends

i hope this letter finds you and your loved ones both happy and well.

one day, before the summer assembly, my parents informed me that they had serious doubts.

i just wanted it to go away, and for things to be the way they used to be.

Lady Liberty

Thank you all for your kind words. I had several ones who were already inactive call me and say they really liked it. Some already had found this out themselves, and I had several strong JWs write me. Those letters were more along the lines that I need to just have faith Blah Blah Blah! One person totally ignored the whole 607 issue and went into why clelbrating Christmas was pagan!!

I do however have one JW inactive for the last 2 years friend, who wants to start doing research on 607 and wants me to come over and help her. So..even if all of it was worth just one person, then hopefully her inactive husband to follow, then it will have been worth it!!

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty

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For those who researched 607...

by AwSnap in

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did you use wt dates as well as things found from a secular perspective?

if a witness was researching the 607 dates strictly from watchtower info, would it still become clear they are wrong?

or does the wtbs *make* the dates add up...?

Lady Liberty

Dear Awesnap,

I just posted a letter today that you may find very helpful, as it has the Societies literature as well as other sources that disprove 607. The charts and references are in the end mostly, but there is some in the body of the letter that is critical too.

Here is the link:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/186747/1/Anniversary-of-our-being-egged-by-JWS-decide-to-show-you-all-the-letter-we-sent-to-200-JW-families-Enjoy

Sincerely,

Lady Liberty